Noahide Fundamentalist


For some time now I have been involved with various Noahide groups and discussion formats. People from all over the world with varied backgrounds and spiritual journeys are returning to the Creator and His original instructions to mankind.

I am currently working on a book telling my spiritual journey, but here is a little for those new to following my blog.

I spent 44 years of my life in some form of Christianity. I had been an associate pastor and a Messianic Christian teacher in a small congregation. In 2009 I came to the knowledge about One True God of Israel and left Christianity. My wife and I would spend the next 6+ years studying and preparing ourselves for Orthodox Jewish conversion.

It was only after we had put our house on the market to sell, so we could move and take our next step in the conversion process, that I had a thought inter into my mind while in prayer and meditation. I began reciting a phrase from the Psalms, I looked it up and found it in Psalms 62. It talked about my soul waiting on God alone and that God was my refuge, stronghold, salvation and more. A question I had never had before formed, “If God was already these things for me, then what would conversion add?”

After pondering the question for a while, several other thoughts entered in that caused me to take a very serious look at to why I was converting. When I was done praying about what had just happened, I went and had a talk with my wife. She and I concluded together that conversion was not what the Creator wanted for. We then began to take a serious look at the Noahide Laws that the rabbis have mentioned to us. We saw very clearly that this was to be our spiritual path.

Now after 3 years, I have come to the conclusion that my seeking for Jewish Conversion had wrong motives, I was still in a religious mind set and was seeking to be a Jew for religious reasons, I was trading one religion for another – this is not the reason to become a Jew – one must want to become one of the family and then learn what that family does in it’s service to the Creator; Judaism is not a religion, it is the family of Abraham through the Isaac linage. If I made conversion today, it would be for that reason.

Now to being a Noahide Fundamentalist:

I have a very different take on the Noahide Laws. I come to them from a spiritual path that began in Christianity then  went through years of studying Orthodox Judaism, my path experience has taught me a lot. I can see and understand both sides of the fence, so to speak.

For the most part the 7 Noahide laws appear as a simple outline that the Sages of Israel have gleaned from around 3300 years of Torah study. But do not let their simplicity fool you. It is only the beginning.

1. Prohibition of idolatry
2. Prohibition of blasphemy
3. Prohibition of theft
4. Prohibition of murder
5. Prohibition of forbidden sexual relationships
6. Prohibition of eating meat taken from a live animal
7. Set up courts of justice

That is the basic 7, they do not stop there, these are only the categories in which all our other commands fall under. They touch every aspect of our life.

There are other commandments in Torah that are not commanded to those of the nations. They were given to Israel. Some of these commandments given to Israel, we are permitted to do and then there are others we are not.

The permitted commandments seemed to have become a trap for many. They spend so much energy and time on them. I think this time and energy is misplaced and should be on the learning and practice of the 7 Laws and their details.

I have come to the conclusion that my path has become one of what I would call a Noahide Fundamentalist. I see no need in spending time and energy on learning permitted commandments and not on the commanded ones.

These permitted areas of Torah create division and that is not what the Noahide life is about – we are not commanded to be separated from one another and the world outside our window. The only separation is found within the 7 instructions – we do not get involved with those areas but live a righteous life before the rest of the world, in what ever culture we are placed in. We are to be the face of the 7 Laws.  A Noahide should not be a separatist, – I have had Noahides tell me they would not get my messages if I sent them on Sabbath – this is being religious and in my opinion violated one of our directives, not to form a new religion. We have Noahides fighting over diet and that too is wrong. We respect others choices but we do not tell people that we are more biblical because of our choice of foods or sacred times.

In my book, these permitted areas are leading many off the path, they are forming a new religion. Matter of fact in my own studies I have learned that the permitted commandments are not to be done with spiritual intent – if so they become added commandments and form a new religion.

I know myself, from all my experiences with Christianity and Judaism, I could not in truth be able to do a permitted commandment without spiritual intent. Thus I leave them alone. Those who are fighting to do these permitted commandments really do need to do a self assessment and be truthful to why they want to do them.  

If your formed answer to the self assessment is that God commanded them – then you need to return to the study of the 7 Laws for the nations and learn about the separation of the laws given to the nations and the laws given to Israel.

Even within Judaism, certain permitted areas are not allowed for someone who has not become well learned and practiced with the commandments that person was given to by God to do. I feel the same principle needs to apply to the Noahides. Get the 7 down first and all their details. And please do not tell me that you just learned about the Laws and have just begun the path and now you want to dive into the permitted commandment. Stick with that which is commanded first. I have been on this path seriously for 3 years and I have not scratched the surface.

When an athletic team coach see the team making a lot of mistakes, the couch takes them back to the basics. We are not any different, straying from the basics can cause issues that just do not have to happen.

I am a basic 7 Laws guy, they changed my life, human and world view – I am the happiest I have ever been spiritually – at this time I do not need the permitted commandments for I have not yet mastered the basics yet. Person to person interaction everyday lets me know how much work on my self that is still yet to be done.

The deeper and weightier issues of our part of the Torah is not found in festivals, diets and other permitted commandments but in the commandments that impact personal everyday actions.

This blog is solely my opinion on the issue.

Terry W. Hayes

Photo by Element5 Digital on Unsplash

6 thoughts on “Noahide Fundamentalist

  1. Tom

    Interesting article. My goal is to be Jew but my wife is Christian. I noticed myself that Noahide gave peace on my soul but does Noahide require rest on Shabath? Must Noahide eat kosher meats?

    1. According to Orthodox Jewish law unless the mate is converting they will not convert one to break up a marriage. Once you become a Jew – the Torah law does not permit Jews to be married to a non-Jew – any conversion other than Orthodox the person is not Jewish because the other forms of Judaism do not observe all the Laws of Torah thus making a convert not Jewish. A true convert has to take a vow before God in taking on the whole yoke of Torah, not part of it. There is a lot more info that I will not go into here.

      As far as Sabbath,and kosher, God did not give the rest of mankind any religious rites or ceremonies. Our dietary rules comes from Genesis 9. God told Noah that everything that moved on earth is food for him. The only restriction is that man is not to eat meat from a living animal. The animal has to be fully dead before taking meat from it. A Noahide is permitted to eat kosher but is not commanded. Outside the 7 commandments the permitted ones are not to be done for spiritual reasons. This is deemed to be adding commandments and making a new religion which is not permitted. when permitted commandments are done they are not to be done on a permanent basis and they do not have any spiritual reward since they were never commanded to the nations.

      Here is an article that I wrote on the Sabbath day issue, my info comes from Orthodox Jewish resources for Noahides.

      1. Tom

        You made good points. I have to adjust myself In proper way to honor HaShem without adding new religion. Thank you.

  2. My teacher lives in Tzfat Israel, He and his wife run Torah for the Nations. Check them out at.

    And we have a face book page – Bnei Noach Connection With Israel. We are there to help provide a basic and balanced teaching of the Noahide laws. Feel free to ask any questions about the Noahide laws.

    Have a good day.

  3. Tom

    Does Noahide require to donate 1/10 from salary? Donate to who? Only to Israel or Noahide organization only? No to christian organization? Sorry to ask more questions.

    1. I will give the explanation my teacher gave on this subject a few weeks ago, it will be in a paraphrased version. It also goes along with what I have heard other rabbis instruct on the subject.

      Tithing is not a Divine commandment for Noahides, but there is an obligation as an act of kindness to donate to charity, give to the poor, hungry, homeless etc. It can be to an organization or to an individual. It should start at home – like helping out a family member in need. Then move out to your local community, town, state or nation. Charity to natural disaster relief.

      “Ones charitable donations should not go to fund activities that support idolatry, or draw Jews or Gentiles away from faith in the Torah of Moses.” The Divine Code Third Edition, page 63 footnote 68.

      Abraham giving 10% to Melchizedek is an example but not a command.

      You do not have to give it all in one payment. I know a rabbi who caries change and small bills with him just for charity, that way if he is asked, he has something to give – it is not the amount that counts – it is the act of giving.

      The 7 Noahide Laws are categorical, they are only headings in which many related commandments to the primary are listed and there also is listed non-commanded obligations which are logic based. Most of the obligations deal with kindness given to fellow man in its various forms.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s